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Gwendolyn Mae Kemple
Witness for the People: Guilt Phase June 8 & 9, 2004
Direct Examination by Rick Distaso DISTASO: Ms. Kemple, how are you, well, let me just ask you a preliminary question, do you know or did you know in your life a Laci Peterson? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And do you know a Sharon Rocha? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And Laci's family? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And just how, how is it that you are related or associated with this family? KEMPLE: Sharon and I are first cousins. DISTASO: And you live in Modesto? KEMPLE: Yes, I do. DISTASO: And what is your husband's name? KEMPLE: Harvey. DISTASO: And have you, have you and Sharon known each other, you know, basically your whole life? KEMPLE: All of our lives, yes. DISTASO: Now, on December 24th of 2002, where were you? KEMPLE: At my home. DISTASO: And did you have any people over there? KEMPLE: Yes, I did, I had all of our family. All of our close family was there. DISTASO: Can you remember, can you give me a guesstimate of how many people there were? KEMPLE: I'd say 25 to 30 people. DISTASO: And did you receive a call from Ron Grantski sometime around 6:30? KEMPLE: Yes, we did. DISTASO: And can you tell the jury just briefly what you were told and what you did. KEMPLE: Yes, my husband answered the phone, and it was around 6:30. And Ron was on the other line and he told Harvey that they had received a phone call. GERAGOS: Objection. JUDGE: Sustained. DISTASO: Yeah, hold on a second. KEMPLE: Okay. DISTASO: Let me just, let me go through a little more specific. You got a phone call? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And Ron was saying something, basically you need to get to the park? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And you're, I'm sorry, your husband got a phone call? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: Did you gather up all the folks that were at your house and head over to the Dry Creek Park area? KEMPLE: Yes, we said that, DISTASO: Go ahead. KEMPLE: Ron had said that we were needed at the park. DISTASO: All right. And so did pretty much everyone who was over at your house go over to the park? KEMPLE: All of the adults, yes, the children stayed home. DISTASO: All right. And what, where did you go when you got to the park? KEMPLE: I went down by the tennis courts. It's kind of on the other end by the bridge. DISTASO: And where did your husband go? KEMPLE: He left me off. I rode with him and his brother and he let me off to be with Sharon. That's where Sharon and Sandy were at the time. DISTASO: Did you meet up with them? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And then your husband went off search somewhere else? KEMPLE: He went off to search, right. DISTASO: Did you see Scott Peterson down in the Dry Creek Park area? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: Did you talk to him at all when he was down there? KEMPLE: No, I did not. DISTASO: How would you describe his demeanor, if you can, when you saw him down in the Dry Creek area? KEMPLE: His back was towards me at first. DISTASO: Hm-hmm. KEMPLE: And once he turned around and started walking towards me, he was just walking in a normal stride towards the restrooms. DISTASO: All right. Did, you know, was he screaming out Laci's name or, you know, KEMPLE: No. DISTASO: kind of looking in the bushes or running around? KEMPLE: No. DISTASO: So you say he was walking towards you, and then did you speak to him there? KEMPLE: No. DISTASO: Okay. What's the next thing that happened? KEMPLE: The next thing that happened was that after Sharon and Sandy left to go to the house, I stayed in the park to wait for her sister. DISTASO: And did eventually her sister come? KEMPLE: No, she had gone to the house so I was there by myself. DISTASO: All right. So you were down at the park by yourself? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And how long do you think you stayed down there? KEMPLE: I'd say around 15 to 20 minutes. DISTASO: Did you see other people searching the park or in the park when you were down there? KEMPLE: Yes, there was other people. DISTASO: Like your family or whatnot? KEMPLE: My daughters came up over the hill, they had been in the park, and my two daughters came towards me, DISTASO: All right. KEMPLE: when they saw me there. DISTASO: How did you get, or did you eventually leave the park? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And how did you leave the park and then where did you go? KEMPLE: We took McKenzie with us, the dog, and my daughters and went to the house on Covena DISTASO: And what happened next, when you got to Covena, what happened? KEMPLE: When I got to Covena, the first thing of course I did was go to Sharon, she had already gotten there, and then I went over and I gave Scott a hug. DISTASO: Did you say anything to him at that time? KEMPLE: Not at that time. DISTASO: Okay. Where was he standing? KEMPLE: He was kind of in the middle of the yard by the tree. DISTASO: In the lawn portion or on the driveway? KEMPLE: Yes, on the lawn portion. DISTASO: Okay. What happened next then? What's the next think that you remember happening there at Covena? KEMPLE: Well, at, about that time other people started arriving and we were just all talking. There were a lot of neighbors coming out and we were just talking about where she could have been. DISTASO: Okay. And at some point some time later did you see Scott standing by his truck in the driveway? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And how much later was it from the time when you got up from the park to Covena and then you saw Scott standing there? KEMPLE: From the park to Covena to the time I went to him, DISTASO: Hm-hmm. KEMPLE:, at the truck was about, I'd say maybe an hour. DISTASO: Okay. And did you talk to him? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And what did you ask him? KEMPLE: I asked him where he had been that day. DISTASO: And what did he say? KEMPLE: He said he had gone fishing. DISTASO: And did he tell you where? KEMPLE: No, I didn't ask. DISTASO: Okay. And did you ask him anything else? KEMPLE: I asked him what Laci was doing that morning when he left. DISTASO: Did, can you tell me as best you can remember exactly the words you asked him and exactly what he said to you that day? KEMPLE: I said, "What was Laci doing when you left?" DISTASO: Okay. And what were his exact words? KEMPLE: He said she was watching Martha Stewart. DISTASO: And did you ask him anything else? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: What did you ask him? KEMPLE: I said, "Did you talk to her today?" And he said, "No, I didn't." DISTASO: And did you ask him anything else? KEMPLE: At that time, no. DISTASO: Did you ask him if he had tried to call her? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. I stated that, if he had talked to her. I'm sorry, yes. DISTASO: Okay. Well, let's break this down. Did you ask him if he had tried to call her? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And what did he tell you? KEMPLE: I said, "Did you try to call her again?" And he said, "Yes." DISTASO: Okay. And I guess you followed up then with did you speak to her? KEMPLE: I said, "Did you call her again?" DISTASO: Hm-hmm. KEMPLE: And he said, "Yes." DISTASO: Okay. And did you ask him if he had ever spoken to her that day? KEMPLE: He, no, I didn't say "have you ever spoken to her today." DISTASO: And what else did you ask him? KEMPLE: At that time nothing. DISTASO: Okay. And then at some time later did you speak to him again? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And how much later was that? KEMPLE: I saw him sitting over on, like, a little brick wall. It was about 30 minutes later. DISTASO: During that first conversation did you ask him anything about Laci's purse? KEMPLE: Not the first time. DISTASO: Was that the second time? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: Okay. So when you went over there you said he was sitting on a little brick wall; is that right? KEMPLE: Hm-hmm. Yes. DISTASO: And how much later than the first conversation? KEMPLE: About, I'd say 30 minutes. DISTASO: And who was sitting with him? KEMPLE: No one at that time. DISTASO: Okay. And so you went up to him again? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And what did you ask him? KEMPLE: I asked him what Laci was wearing that morning. DISTASO: And, okay. Are those the exact words you used? KEMPLE: I said, "What was Laci wearing this morning?" DISTASO: Okay. And what did he say? KEMPLE: He said, "Black pants and a white top." DISTASO: Did he describe the top in any more detail? KEMPLE: No, he did not. DISTASO: Okay. Let me show you this report, and see if this is correct or this is an error. JUDGE: Do you want to identity it for the record? DISTASO: Yes, I will, Your Honor. It's a report dated May 1st, 2003. For the record it's, I mean for the counsel it's 23912. KEMPLE: Hm-hmm. Oh, a white long-sleeved shirt, yes, I did say that. DISTASO: All right. So let me go back then and ask you, as you read that report does that refresh your memory as exactly how you described it? KEMPLE: Yeah, he said "Black pants and a white long-sleeved shirt." DISTASO: Okay. Did you ask him anything else, oh, I'm sorry, did you ask him anything about the clothes? KEMPLE: I asked him what kind of shoes she was wearing. DISTASO: Okay. And what did he say? KEMPLE: He said "tennis shoes." DISTASO: Did you ask him if any of those clothing items were there at the house? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: What did he say? KEMPLE: He said "I don't know." DISTASO: Did you ask him anything about Laci's purse? KEMPLE: I ask him, yes, I ask him if Laci's purse was here. DISTASO: And what did he say? KEMPLE: He said "I don't know." DISTASO: Did you ask him, well, let me ask you this, are you aware of what the weather was that day? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: I mean, KEMPLE: It was cold. DISTASO: Normal December day in Modesto? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: And how are normal, you know, December days in Modesto? KEMPLE: I believe it was like in the 30s, DISTASO: Okay. KEMPLE: 40s. DISTASO: And did you ask him anything about Laci wearing a jacket? KEMPLE: Yes, I said, "Did she have on a jacket?" DISTASO: I'm sorry. JUDGE: Mr. Distaso, DISTASO: I know. I got to let her finish. I keep jumping ahead. JUDGE: If you keep jumping on her, then the court reporter's going to have a mess. DISTASO: Right. JUDGE: Go ahead. DISTASO: Give me the exact words you asked him and the exact words he said back? KEMPLE: I said, "Did she have on a jacket?" It was cold. I said, "Did she have on a jacket?" And he said, "I don't know. I said, "Did you see if her jacket was missing?" And he said "No." DISTASO: What was his demeanor during the times that you were having these conversations with him? KEMPLE: Well, he wouldn't look at me. He just answered my questions calmly, just matter of fact. DISTASO: Did, had you had, I mean, had you known him prior to this night? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: I mean, had you seen him at family functions? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: Okay. So you were not a stranger to him? KEMPLE: No, not at all. DISTASO: Did you see Scott Peterson or, let me just go here. What time did you leave 523 Covena that night? KEMPLE: Not until around I'd say 10:00, 10:30 that night. DISTASO: And did you go back to 523 Covena the next day? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: What time did you get there? KEMPLE: Around 8:30 in the morning. DISTASO: And what was going on there at the house? KEMPLE: Several people were surrounding the house. There was quite a few inside. When I first got there I had seen Sharon outside coming around the corner, so I kind of waited for her there and then I went into the house. DISTASO: And what was, did you see Scott Peterson? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And what was he doing? KEMPLE: He was in the kitchen when I walked in. Not really doing anything, just standing in the kitchen at that particular time when I walked in. DISTASO: Okay. How long were you there at the house? KEMPLE: Until around, until around 11:30. DISTASO: And did you see the defendant there at the house the entire time? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: That you were there? KEMPLE: Pretty much so. I mean, he wasn't in the same rooms I was in, but he was at the house. DISTASO: Okay. And what was he doing? KEMPLE: At one time I saw him talking on the phone in the dining room, and later it was said that it was his dad that he was talking to. DISTASO: Hm-hmm. KEMPLE: He wasn't really doing anything. DISTASO: Okay. And let me, does that pretty much cover what you saw on the 24th and the 25th? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: Okay. Let me go back now to a time in November. And do you have a grandson? KEMPLE: Yes, I do. DISTASO: And what's his initials? KEMPLE: TJ. DISTASO: And was TJ getting any kind of tutoring or anything, some kind of help from Laci? KEMPLE: I had called Laci and ask if she would help TJ with his math. DISTASO: Okay. And how old is TJ? KEMPLE: He was 13, he was at that time he would have been 12. DISTASO: And this was in November of 2002? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: So Laci was obviously visibly pregnant? KEMPLE: Yes. DISTASO: Okay. Do you remember, do you remember the exact date when this happened? KEMPLE: No, I don't. DISTASO: Okay. Do you remember if it was in November? KEMPLE: Yes, I do, early November. DISTASO: When you went over to their house did you see the defendant? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. DISTASO: And did you talk to him, anything about the baby that was coming? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. My daughter and I were in the, down in the living room where he was and I started talking to him about the name of the baby and was he ready to be a dad, play sports. DISTASO: And what did he say? KEMPLE: Well, I'd ask him if, I said, "Are you ready for the football games." And he said, "No, I didn't play football." And I said, "Well, then baseball." I said, "You'll have to practice on your catching and throwing. My grandsons play baseball, so that was just a common thing to say to him. And he said "No." He said, "I have friends that can do that. I said, "You didn't play baseball in school?" He said "No." DISTASO: Did you ask him in the context of are you going to teach the baby to play baseball? KEMPLE: I didn't say that. DISTASO: Okay. Did you ask him anything about was he interested or excited about, you know, teaching the baby anything? KEMPLE: I didn't ask him if he was excited, I just said he better get busy because he's got a job to do. DISTASO: And what did he say? KEMPLE: He said he had, at that particular time I thought it was strange because he said, "I've got friends to do that." DISTASO: Nothing further, Your Honor. JUDGE: Okay. Before you start your cross-examination I'll give you until tomorrow, Mr. Geragos.
June 9, 2004 Cross Examination by Mark Geragos JUDGE: And we have Ms. Kemple is back on the stand, and, Mr. Geragos, I assume you're ready to go? GERAGOS: I am, your Honor. JUDGE: Go ahead. GERAGOS: Thank you. GERAGOS: Good morning. KEMPLE: Good morning. GERAGOS: The, if I understood you correctly it was about 7:00 o'clock on December 24th when there was a phone call to the house that first alerted you that something was up? KEMPLE: I believe it was 6:30. GERAGOS: Okay. And what time did you leave the house? KEMPLE: Immediately after that. GERAGOS: Okay. What time did you arrive at the park? KEMPLE: It took us about ten minutes to get there. GERAGOS: Okay. And you had your husband, Harvey, KEMPLE: Yes GERAGOS:, drive you? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Okay. And when you got to the park, you saw Sharon first? KEMPLE: I saw Sharon and Sandy standing out in the middle of the park, yes. GERAGOS: Okay. And we've got a map up here that's marked as People's 22. Just an overview of the park. Do you remember where you came, remember where you came into the park? Do you recognize this at all? KEMPLE: Yes. JUDGE: You can leave your chair. GERAGOS: You can stand up and walk over, if you want. KEMPLE: It might be better. JUDGE: State what it purports to represent. GERAGOS: The tennis courts are there. KEMPLE: Right. That's where he left me off is right there, in front of the tennis courts. GERAGOS: Do you remember where Sharon was? KEMPLE: Sharon was in the grassy area right there. GERAGOS: Okay. Now you can return to your seat, if you want. As you walked up, let's see, Harvey dropped you off? Or you got out of the car? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: And at that point the, you saw Sharon and Sandy? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: And Scott was about 50 to 60 feet away from them? KEMPLE: I'm not real good at feet, but, yes. JUDGE: I'll tell you that pole, from where you're seated to that pole is 40 feet. KEMPLE: I think it was farther away than that. Yes. I would say more like 75, then. GERAGOS: Okay. If that's 40, being this pole, that I'm pointing out, KEMPLE: Uh-huh. GERAGOS:, with that picture on it, you're saying about 30, KEMPLE: Right, it, GERAGOS:, feet past that, KEMPLE:, was, REPORTER: Excuse me, can you let him finish the question before you answer? KEMPLE: Oh. REPORTER: Thank you. GERAGOS: It wasn't me this time. GERAGOS: And his back, Scott's back was to you and to Sharon, correct? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Okay. Now, at that point it's somewhere around 6:40, 6:45? KEMPLE: Yes, sir. GERAGOS: Dark out? KEMPLE: Getting dark, yes. GERAGOS: Getting dark out? KEMPLE: Getting dark. GERAGOS: Now, the, how long were you down in the park? KEMPLE: I was down there about 45 minutes. GERAGOS: Okay. Sharon was hysterical at that point? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: And Sandy was pretty much, KEMPLE: So was everyone. GERAGOS: Okay. Was the, how long, where did you look in the park? KEMPLE: I didn't actually look in the park. GERAGOS: Okay. What, KEMPLE: I wasn't looking at that time. GERAGOS: Okay. What did you do? KEMPLE: I was standing with Sharon. GERAGOS: Standing with Sharon? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Okay. Then did you go up to the house? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: How did you get to the house? KEMPLE: With my daughters. GERAGOS: Okay. Did the drive you? KEMPLE: In their car. GERAGOS: And when they drove you to the house, how long was it before you gave Scott the hug that you described yesterday? KEMPLE: Maybe five minutes. GERAGOS: Okay. Then how long before you talked to him? KEMPLE: About 30 minutes. GERAGOS: And when you talked to him were the police around? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: Were there any other people in the immediate vicinity? KEMPLE: They were around us, but not right by me, no. GERAGOS: And who were the other people that were around you? KEMPLE: Friends that had come up. There was, I did see a police officer over to my left. I believe Ron was standing in the yard. But no one was standing by me. GERAGOS: Okay. Now, the next thing that you did is you went through yesterday and said that you questioned Scott, correct? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Okay. And then after you questioned him, at some point you were sent, the police said leave; is that correct? KEMPLE: Excuse me? GERAGOS: The police said to leave? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: Everybody was told to leave? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: Did you just leave on your own? KEMPLE: No, I didn't leave until late that evening. GERAGOS: That's what I mean. At some point later that evening you were told or the police said everybody should go home? KEMPLE: Well, Detective Brocchini had, was taking Scott in his car, away, so we just left because they said they wanted the park clear. GERAGOS: Okay. So when, what time was that? KEMPLE: I think it was around 10:30. GERAGOS: At night? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Then you came back to the Covena house on the morning of Christmas morning KEMPLE: Christmas morning. GERAGOS: the next day? At what time was that? KEMPLE: About 8:30. GERAGOS: Okay. Was Scott home then? KEMPLE: Yes, he was. GERAGOS: And you stayed there until what time? KEMPLE: Around 11:30. GERAGOS: Okay. Was Scott home all three hours, from 8:30 until 11:30? KEMPLE: I saw him coming in and out of the house. GERAGOS: Okay. Did you see him putting up fliers? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: Did you see him with Brent Rocha? KEMPLE: I did not see him with Brent, no. GERAGOS: You didn't see him with Brent? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: How about at 10:30? Was he in the house at 10:30? KEMPLE: I couldn't tell you that. GERAGOS: Okay. KEMPLE: If he was in there at 10:30. GERAGOS: And you were there from 8:30 to, KEMPLE: 11:30. GERAGOS: 11:30? And it's your testimony, didn't you tell the police that Scott was there, he wasn't doing anything, he wasn't assisting, he was just in the house from 8:30 until 11:30, isn't that what you told, KEMPLE: I said I was there, GERAGOS: Detective Grogan? KEMPLE: from 8:30 to 11:30. GERAGOS: Yeah. And didn't you tell Detective Grogan on Christmas day from 8:30 until 11:30 Scott was there and he wasn't doing anything? JUDGE: He wants to know if that's what you told Detective Grogan. KEMPLE: That he wasn't doing anything? JUDGE: Right. GERAGOS: He wasn't assisting in the search. You thought it was odd, KEMPLE: Right. He wasn't outside. He was in and out of the house. GERAGOS: Okay. And he wasn't assisting in the search? KEMPLE: No, he was not. GERAGOS: He wasn't putting up fliers? KEMPLE: No, he was not. GERAGOS: He wasn't with Brent Rocha, didn't go get tape to go get the fliers? KEMPLE: I did not see him leave with Brent. GERAGOS: Okay. And you're sure of that? You're as sure of that as you are about everything else? KEMPLE: I did not see him leave with Brent. GERAGOS: You're sure he was there in the house? KEMPLE: No, I said he was in and out of the house from 8:30 until 11:30, the time I was there. GERAGOS: Okay. Well, if you, he was in and out of the house, how do you know what he was doing outside? KEMPLE: I don't know what he was doing outside. GERAGOS: Well, why did you tell the police that you didn't think he was doing anything? KEMPLE: I didn't see him doing anything. GERAGOS: Oh. KEMPLE: I didn't see him doing anything. GERAGOS: What, so if you didn't see him, did that mean he didn't do it? KEMPLE: I don't know. GERAGOS: Okay. Did you tell the police he didn't do anything? KEMPLE: I did not. I said I didn't see him doing anything. GERAGOS: And you, you didn't see Brent Rocha at all that this morning? KEMPLE: Sure. I saw Brent. GERAGOS: Where did you see Brent? KEMPLE: In the house. Outside. GERAGOS: That this morning, too, between 8:30 and 11:30? KEMPLE: Oh, gosh, I don't know what time. I can't say that I know what time I saw Brent. GERAGOS: I've got, KEMPLE: I was there between 8:30 and 11:30. GERAGOS: I've got 23913, which is a May 1st report by Grogan. You want to read that paragraph that's yellow highlighted? JUDGE: Just to yourself. KEMPLE: (Witness reading) GERAGOS: Does that refresh your recollection as to what you told the police? KEMPLE: Has nothing today with Brent. GERAGOS: Does that refresh your recollection as to what you told, KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: the police? Did you tell the police that you remained at the house from 9:00 a.m. until 11:30 a.m.? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Did you tell them that Scott and Sharon were present in the house during that time? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Is that, did you tell them that there were other people that came in and out of the house that were part of the search parties, however, Scott never left the house to assist in the search that day? KEMPLE: I never saw Scott assist in the search that day. GERAGOS: Did you say that he never left the house to assist in the search? KEMPLE: I might have said he never had left the house. GERAGOS: Okay. Did you say that you felt it was very odd that he was not assisting in the search for his wife when so many others were actively searching the park, KEMPLE: Yes, I said that. GERAGOS: Well, how do you know if he left the house, today you testified he left the house, he was in and out, right? KEMPLE: In and out. GERAGOS: All right. You never told the police, KEMPLE: By leaving the house, I mean the premises. GERAGOS: Did you ever tell the police that? Because it didn't make it into the report. KEMPLE: That, did I tell the police what? GERAGOS: That he was in and out? KEMPLE: I believe I did. GERAGOS: Okay. Well, here it says that he never left the house; isn't that, isn't that what you told the police? That he never left the house? JUDGE: If you recall, Mrs. Kemple, is that what you told the police? KEMPLE: Can I say something? JUDGE: Yes. KEMPLE: That leaving the house meaning, when I say leaving the house is coming from inside the house, outside the house. JUDGE: From inside the house going outside? KEMPLE: Right. Leaving the house, are you asking if he left in a car? Is that leaving the home? GERAGOS: Did you, did you watch where he went when he left your eyesight? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: Okay. Did you tell the police that he never left the house? KEMPLE: I don't remember saying that. GERAGOS: Did you say that he, there were other people assisting in the search but he wasn't? Did you tell the police that? KEMPLE: At that, yes, I, he was not in the park. GERAGOS: Okay. And you know that because? KEMPLE: Because of other people that were in the park. GERAGOS: Well, were you in the park? KEMPLE: That morning, yes, I was in the park also. GERAGOS: I thought you were in the house? KEMPLE: No, I'm sorry, no, not that morning. I did not go to the park that morning, no. GERAGOS: Let's, let's, why don't we try to reconstruct how you came to the police. You didn't go to the police until May 1st, is that correct? KEMPLE: Right. GERAGOS: So that would have been after Scott was arrested? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: And so then, what, all of a sudden you had an epiphany and you remembered all of these details and, KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: said Hey, Scott's arrested, I better call the police and tell them this stuff? KEMPLE: Well, kind of. GERAGOS: Okay. Now, was that after you had already talked to all your girlfriends about what had happened? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: Had you talked to Sharon about what had happened? KEMPLE: I had started thinking about things that I thought were a little unusual and I mentioned it to Sharon. She goes, Don't tell me, tell Grogan. GERAGOS: Okay. And did you talk to your husband, Harvey, KEMPLE: About, GERAGOS: about these, REPORTER: I'm sorry, wait, wait. JUDGE: Mr. Geragos, you're stepping on her answer. REPORTER: "Talk to your husband, Harvey, about --" GERAGOS: About your sudden epiphany or recollection? KEMPLE: It wasn't sudden. GERAGOS: It wasn't sudden? KEMPLE: No. GERAGOS: It was sometime, two weeks after he got arrested, all of a sudden you, KEMPLE: No, it had been from the beginning. REPORTER: Please don't talk on top of his question. JUDGE: You've got to wait so she can finish the question, and then you can answer. KEMPLE: Okay. GERAGOS: You never called the police up until May 1st, correct? KEMPLE: That's correct. GERAGOS: Okay. You never told anybody that you had been in the house from 9:00 to 11:30 and that Scott was there not assisting in the search until May 1st? KEMPLE: No one asked me. GERAGOS: No one asked you. But you volunteered it, you thought that would be helpful to the investigation? KEMPLE: Yes, I did. GERAGOS: And you were trying to be helpful, as helpful as you could be, when you said that he never left the house and he never assisted in the search, right? KEMPLE: Would you say that again? GERAGOS: That was, you thought that was being helpful, you were making some helpful observations? KEMPLE: Yes. GERAGOS: Thank you. I have no further questions. JUDGE: May Ms. Kemple be excused, Mr. Distaso? DISTASO: That's fine, your Honor. I have no questions. JUDGE: Mrs. Kemple, thank you. You are excused. KEMPLE: Thank you. |